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1021 Anna Micheel
Location: Adelaide
IP: 121.221.140.162
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Hey Everyone,
Don't forget the Ultimate Blokes Show at the Showgrounds is on this weekend. This is a great South Aussie Show organised by Geof Tartoosie who has worked very hard behind the scenes for the Motorplex - so come on people, lets support Geof and his show - you won't regret it!
We will be there gathering more signatures of support for the Motorplex so come and say Hi, It doesn't matter if you have already signed the Petition - just come and make yourself known as a fellow Motorsport Enthusiast! |
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1020 Anna Micheel
Location: Adelaide
IP: 60.231.245.152
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| Thursday 15/Apr/2010 22:01:27 EST |
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Hi All,
Sorry to keep you waiting - the news is still positive. Whilst I haven't anything concrete to report unfortunately, I can tell you that we are to receive the terms and conditions of the sale/lease of the land at Gillman in writing, within 2 weeks. This as you already know has been requested long before this, and until we receive this in writing we can not, and will not commence any studies. |
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1019 steve
Location: adelaide
IP: 121.221.190.51
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| Thursday 15/Apr/2010 20:58:25 EST |
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| Hello whats going on out there do we know something about todays meeting or not |
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1018 Barry van Laatum
Location: Hope Valley
IP: unknown<br> [58.160.195.246]
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| Thursday 15/Apr/2010 18:16:22 EST |
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| got some news for us? |
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1017 Nic
Location: south
IP: 203.122.252.100
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| Tuesday 13/Apr/2010 12:30:10 EST |
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| Over 80000 people have visited this site, if that doesnt say theres support for a motorplex then what does. Best of luck on thurs Anna and team, hopefully they'll understand a little bit of noise is nothing compared with what it could do for the community. |
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1016 jon
Location: Adelaide
IP: 115.131.199.219
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| Tuesday 13/Apr/2010 08:09:52 EST |
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| it's quiet in here... |
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1015 Matt H
Location: Adelaide
IP: 203.1.104.12
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| Friday 09/Apr/2010 08:12:43 EST |
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Wow, incredible.
I can't believe someone would actually go to the trouble of printing flyers and distributing them to residents. To top it off, using the logo's of some of the supporting companies. Rather strange really. The person/s doing this are obviously rather simple and have made an absolute joke of themselves.
What is their agenda? Are they local residents? Are they people involved with Tailem Bend? They must have a vested interest in either of those issues at a guess because what other reasons are there. Jo blow wouldn't exactly know what companies are behind the motorplex so they have executed their attempt very poorly.
Bring on April 15, eagerly awaiting the results of that meeting.
Keep up the good work Anna and co, we are all thankful for the long hours and stress that you all must be under.
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1014 Monsta 1
Location: Eudunda
IP: 58.167.206.159
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| Thursday 08/Apr/2010 21:25:20 EST |
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 Hi Anna,
What a disgrace!!!!! Some people just don't get it.
I hope you , the consortium and/or the Police catch this/these no hopers and throw the book at them, or perhaps tie them to the rear of a 7000hp Top Fueler and see what comments and inuendoes they have then.
It really makes it hard for the genuine motorsport enthusiests that are out there trying their best to help you get this long awaited racetrack up and running.
Goodluck, fingers and toes crossed for you all and lets get behind this.
Kym.
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1013 Anna Micheel
Location: Adelaide
IP: 121.215.11.9
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| Thursday 08/Apr/2010 08:24:51 EST |
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Hi Guys,
Just letting you know that late last night I received a phone call re the letter drop saga and we now believe we are close to catching the person/people involved.
What I need from you guys is to remain vigilant in your suburb. Anyone receiving one of these letters, not only contact either myself or the Police immediately,but also ask the people who live in your street if they have received one as well. |
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1012 glenn
Location: para hills
IP: 120.19.66.74
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| Wednesday 07/Apr/2010 23:49:11 EST |
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| Think you guys need to get onto 5aa asap, and nip this in the bud, and quick. |
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1011 Nick
Location: south
IP: 58.6.86.200
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| Wednesday 07/Apr/2010 21:43:21 EST |
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| Thats just plain bad, maybe we should do a letter drop saying how much money this will bring in for the state and how it could help driver standards improve and possibly lower road tolls. Or maybe we should just say there golf courses are full of 'champions' who cheat on there wives and invite them to come see true family sports where the whole family gets into it. |
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1010 max
Location: adel
IP: 58.169.218.127
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| Wednesday 07/Apr/2010 15:59:32 EST |
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 you know why these negative f#*kin pricks wont sign there handy work because they know its full of false statments as the same as the negative shit that has been on this site they wont to hope there not found good luck anna |
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1009 Anna Micheel
Location: Adelaide
IP: 58.167.247.25
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| Wednesday 07/Apr/2010 08:56:04 EST |
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Hi Everyone,
It has come to my attention that a "Letter/Flyer" has or is being distributed via a Letter Box Drop around the Grange area. It talks about Environmental and Noise Pollution concerns from supposedly concerned residents within the area. Its entirety is based on ill informed and ignorant facts that is completely against the mantra of the Adelaide Motorplex!
I want everyone to know that under instruction, I have handed a copy of this document to the Police yesterday for investigation. Needless to say that this document is not signed, except for the guise that is it from Concerned Residents Against the Motorplex (C.R.A.M.S.). The concerns that I have is that the document contains not 1, but 2 commecial Logos - 1. Paint Supplies and
2. City Dismantlers.
Both used without permission and/or authority. This is totally illegal I assure you all, that if caught we will prosecute all parties involved!
I ask all of you living in particularly the Grange area to keep a vigilant look out and either report any information to either myself or the Police.
To the people concerned - GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT |
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1008 Renee
Location: Adelaide hills
IP: 211.26.55.223
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| Tuesday 06/Apr/2010 16:28:20 EST |
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| Anyone watch the ABC special on Victor Bray. Very interesting to watch. Good PR for our sport. Check it out on http://www.abc.net.au/iview/#/view/541995 |
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1007 Dave
Location: Adelaide
IP: 58.171.42.178
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| Tuesday 06/Apr/2010 01:53:34 EST |
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| Keep up the good work to all concerned i get very angry with negative feeds, try and stay positive as we need this motorplex. |
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1006 Michael
Location: Grange
IP: 114.30.116.141
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| Saturday 03/Apr/2010 10:56:18 EST |
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Hi all,
The Car and Bike shows held at Seaton will now be known as "Pit Lane".
Our next gathering will be on Saturday 1st of May 2010 from 11.00 am - 4.00pm
Again, this will be a free event for all to enter ,and free admission to come and hang out.
The idea is to come along with your ride(s) and be amongest other car/bike minded people.
Have anything you want to sell? By all means, bring it along.
Want to set up a swap meet display? By all means, go ahead,
(What you make goes in your pocket.)
We are not going to worry about trophies or certificates for best in show etc. as that got a little too political, so we'll go back to our format of low key as that seems to have worked best the first time.
One lesson we have learnt is, if the weather looks like rain, then we'll cancel the day, please call on 0435 221 001 if you have any doubts come 1/5/10.
Location : 185 Frederick Road. Seaton
Cost : Free
Catering : Cafe available, BBQ , soft drinks
Note : No Alcohol
Any question, please call me on 0435 221 001 or send me an email carshow@y7mail.com
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1005 Renato
Location: Adelaide
IP: 58.160.155.68
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| Saturday 03/Apr/2010 00:56:46 EST |
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Well said Glenn, Simon, Matt H & Frank.
As I said before, unsupportive comments just feeds ammunition to our possible future opponents.
I just dont want to hear the words Top Fuel & Glenelg in the same sentence again. Maybe we could hire those 2 geeks from Mythbusters to help us out with that? |
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1004 rosco
Location: adelaide
IP: 58.111.107.108
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| Friday 02/Apr/2010 23:13:34 EST |
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I say play the ball, the ref hasn't blown the whistle yet ............the game is still on so don't give up  |
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1003 Glenn
Location: Adelaide
IP: 120.156.89.204
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| Friday 02/Apr/2010 21:23:19 EST |
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BB, this isn't a forum, never intended to be one, just a guestbook to lodge MESSAGES-OF-SUPPORT and quick way for Anna to post updates.
If you want to fire up a discussion on something in particular then head over to the FB page and start a discussion thread or post a comment. |
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1002 Frank
Location: Athelstone
IP: 121.221.31.153
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| Friday 02/Apr/2010 20:32:55 EST |
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| I went for a drive down to the site to have a good look around just to see what all the fuss a small group of people are complaining about and what I dont get is that the site is in a heavy inustrial area with massive buisnesses every were some with 24hour shifts making alot of noise daily. I think if this small minority of people go for a drive down there and have a good look around they to will think what an awsome site to have such a venu.(if they are true supporters of the motorplex) |
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1001 Screamingvixen
Location: Salisbury
IP: 219.90.173.12
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| Friday 02/Apr/2010 10:01:20 EST |
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 Keep it up guys. DOn't give in. Mr Rann is finally listening! |
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1000 Matt H
Location: Adelaide
IP: 121.45.102.120
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| Friday 02/Apr/2010 07:30:15 EST |
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BB,
It is clear you have a strong point of view about the suitability of the Gillman site. That is fine and you would see from my other posts I can understand your point of view. But can you understand why the consortium wants to build there?
It is quite simple, the consortium has assessed the risks and decided to proceed. If you have had a look at the situation and do not think it is worthwhile trying to get approved or built. I understand but please recognise that being consistently opposed in a public forum is a fruitless exercise. It will not achieve a thing because the motorplex crew have decided to proceed with due diligence in consultation with the government.
Do you think the audience you keep preaching to is stupid? Do you think we don't understand that there will be issues with noise and numerous other issues to overcome?
Can you accept that a motorplex close to the CBD is more viable as a going concern?
All these things will be addressed in the reports and we might get approval, or approval with conditions (eg early curfew) or it may be dismissed. The whole scenario we understand BB, so you are not telling us anything new that we were not aware of.
Sure put your point of view across, we understand you don't think it is worth having a shot building at Gillman. The consortium do and the process has started, end of story. |
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999 Big Bear
Location: adelaide
IP: 219.90.181.144
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| Thursday 01/Apr/2010 23:30:09 EST |
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Glen, it is a sad day when in a democracy we cannot state opposing veiws and then be threatened with being removed of the site. I thought that even our own democratic government using the Westminster system works in this fashion by having an opposition.
Matt H, please don't critise my english, have a look at your own spelling, we use the queens english here in australia not american english.
As far as my interest in drag racing in SA I was there at Port Adelaide at the first rally or display pushing for a drag strip in Adelaide, I was also there at North Tce cheering everybody on about having a drag strip for Adelaide, I have also had 2 letters published in the Advertiser so to everyone, please don't question my integrity in relation to having drag racing in SA
Thank you for allowing me to use the site....BB |
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998 Mikee-Mike
Location: Para Hills
IP: 124.189.240.117
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| Thursday 01/Apr/2010 22:18:30 EST |
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| WOW! Lots of comments for and against. After reading all the recent claims and counter claims, I feel I've completed my weekly exercise routine. Seems to me the greatest hurtle to overcome is getting the full support from the govt. Up until recently we only had a govt. opposing us. If they continue with this recent turn of support, then other challenges can be dealt with far more easily. Governments are strange organisations. When they decide they want something to happen, they find a way around almost anything. I think the govt's primary consideration is the economic benefits the Motorplex will provide. If that box gets the big tick, the rest follows more readily. Though the wheels rotate slowly, it still means we are going forward. Carry on regardless I say. |
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997 Glenn
Location: Adelaide
IP: 120.156.171.210
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| Thursday 01/Apr/2010 21:40:46 EST |
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A lot of passion out there! Good.
Read the rules and post in the spirit of the guestbook or stuff gets deleted or I can shut it down altogether if it gets out of hand. |
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996 habib
IP: 121.45.4.233
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| Thursday 01/Apr/2010 21:25:10 EST |
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people who dont know any thing about the "sport" should refrain from comenting on this site.only positive coments welcome.  |
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995 Monsta 1
IP: 58.167.206.159
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| Thursday 01/Apr/2010 20:19:11 EST |
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Dear BB, If you can see windows of the CBD from Gillman, ***** man, give me the shit you are on coz I need some just to believe the rubbish that a lot of you are putting on here.
If you don't have anything posative to put on here and back Anna and the team, it's time you disapeared into the distance and let those of us that want this brilliant idea to go forward and enjoy.
Kym. |
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994 Frank
Location: Beautiful Noise
IP: 115.131.199.219
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| Thursday 01/Apr/2010 19:16:19 EST |
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Ive been reading these comments since the recent meeting with Mr Rann, it makes me wonder why some negative comments are surfacing now, perhaps scare tactics to benefit someone or another group or party.
As for hearing Top Fuel cars from Waterloo Corner to Glenelg (30Kms), oh please thats a joke. i dont think 2 tin cans with kevlar string in between would be audable at that distance, scare tactics and thats all or you have very, very good hearing, sorry Im not buying it.
The proposal is in the hands of the relevant party who deal with these issues regardless of rumour, personal views or scare tactics, and yes its the start of a long process, with EPA, cultural heritage, flora and fauna and others im probably not aware of, if it passes it can be built if its not passed it cant. Simple
As a G1 racer I look forward to racing on a 1/4 mile ANDRA Sanctioned racetrack in SA, be it at Gillman, Gawler or Glenelg. I dont care where, I know SA needs it and needs it bad, 10 years overdue.
Imagine....... 10 years without local football, cricket, basketball, netball, lacrosse, chinese checkers......etc etc
Fingers, toes and legs crossed.
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993 Matt H
Location: Adelaide
IP: 203.1.104.12
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| Thursday 01/Apr/2010 16:06:43 EST |
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Time for an english lesson BB
rose-col·ored (rzklrd)
adj.
Cheerful or optimistic, especially to an excessive degree: took a rose-colored view of the situation.
Idiom:
through rose-colored glasses
With an unduly cheerful, optimistic, or favorable view of things: see the world through rose-colored glasses.
I think this situation applies and I don't think I used it out of context. Anyway this is for site is for positive comments and we are purely speculating about a situation that has not been assessed. What for the reports and then form an opinion because your and my opinions don't matter one bit.
As Simon has said, asking the same question over and over in differnt guises is pointless.
Let's end this pointless discussion right now.
I can't wait to race, maybe BB and Raymond should dust off their cars too.
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992 Simon Lazarevski
Location: Adelaide
IP: 122.49.170.163
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| Thursday 01/Apr/2010 14:55:46 EST |
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Raymond,
All the points you asked for to be explained to have been in my post alone.
No use asking the same question 3 different ways.
If you cant hear the noise through a 150 foot mound as you put it how the hell do you hear it at glenelg.
get over it and let the powers that be see what is relevant or not.
I am over trying to explain the same thing numerous times. Good luck in the future with your racing needs.
looking forward to doing some passes in the near future. I cant wait to see this happen. |
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991 Renato
Location: Adelaide
IP: 58.160.155.68
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| Thursday 01/Apr/2010 14:14:46 EST |
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You know what guys? - you are ALL right. But being negative on this site which is not even meant for this type of discussion is not helping. The only person it will be helping is that Mexican that put us in this mess in the first place!
Unless you have a spare $25,000,000.00, and a block of land in Burra, you either support the consortium 100% or you keep your fingers off the keyboard!
Raymond and BB, all of us that have been in drag racing a long time know about the issues that you have noted. You both obviously remember the demise of Rowley Park Speedway. But this is the closest we have ever been to laying a pass in Adelaide for a long time.
So, stop being a chooch and just wait and see. I know this may all be a waste of time but hey, we've already been waiting 9 years so whats the problem.
GET BEHIND THE CONSORTIUM, SHOW NOTHING BUT UNITY TO OUR OPPONENTS.
If you want to be vocal and productive, do what Anna suggested and email a letter of support to Mike at premier@dpc.sa.gov.au |
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990 Big Bear
Location: adelaide
IP: 219.90.181.144
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| Thursday 01/Apr/2010 13:32:01 EST |
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To look at anything thru rose coloured glasses is to avoid the reality of the situation and at the same time waste valuable time and energy.
While watching an on site report on a local TV news service the other night on the proposed Motorplex at Gillman I had to take note that there is a direct line of site to the Adelaide CBD from Gillman, in fact the camera person zoomed into to CBD from Gillman and you could count the windows on the buildings, now why do you think the camera person did that, he or she was making a personal point about the location.
I would die to have a drag strip for the people of Adelaide but surely you have to be realistic about out, as strange as it may seem I do wish you luck....BB |
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989 Matt H
Location: Adelaide
IP: 203.1.104.12
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| Thursday 01/Apr/2010 13:06:05 EST |
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| Of course most of us are looking through rose-coloured glasses, we have every right to. But this is a business decision to try and get a dragstrip within close proximity to the CBD. Sure it is a risk but so is every decision in running/operating a business, if you don't take risks, you don't get rewarded. Let's wait until people have done impact statements and then however is right, can tell us how great there are .... lol |
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988 Big Bear
Location: Adelaide
IP: 219.90.219.67
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| Thursday 01/Apr/2010 12:53:42 EST |
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| My first posting...I think what Raymond is trying to say and rightly so is that just maybe everyone is looking at the Gillman site thru rose coloured glasses. The brick walls will be huge to get the Gillman site approved but the resulting restrictions will be massive and frustrating. As far as the top fuelers being heard in Glenelg well Raymond is right, as an ex resident and many years of hanging around Glenelg I can assure that on occassion you could hear the top fuelers running at AIR from Glenelg especially on warm still nights, mounds only do so much, sound or energy waves can bounce of the upper atmosphere in the right conditions. |
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987 Matt H
Location: Adelaide
IP: 203.1.104.12
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| Thursday 01/Apr/2010 12:35:05 EST |
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Raymond,
What you saying is obvious. These are all concerns that will be addressed in reports. Sure it would be easier to build the track out in the sticks but this location is rather unique so I think it needs to be explored. You would have to admit that a track close to the CBD is more financially viable without question. So let's see what can be done first and let people do their jobs.
If you are right, I am sure you will tell us repeatedly but I don't think this exercise is a waste of time. If they can get it approved, think how great the location will be from a spectators point of view.
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986 Just Hovering
Location: Fleurieu
IP: 118.210.145.81
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| Thursday 01/Apr/2010 11:50:43 EST |
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Hi, I thought this page was for messages of support, I believe there is a Facebook page for all these discussions,etc.
I hope this Motorplex comes to fruition - there has been/is a lot of hard work put in by all you people - keep it up! |
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985 raymond
Location: adelaide
IP: 115.166.50.186
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| Thursday 01/Apr/2010 11:38:04 EST |
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You guy's just don't get it do you? I was trying to point out to you all the problems you are facing trying to get a dragstrip up and running close to a built up area, and you've completely missed the point and attacked the messenger. I like you have spent thousands of dollars attending drag meetings interstate, I love drag racing and I love fuel cars and I personally don't have a problem with the noise.
I will say however that a cuople of mounds is not going to keep noise to an acceptable level, all this talk about how quiet it is behind a mound is irellevent, of course it's quiet, the noise is not going to travel through a couple of hundred feet of dirt and rock. Everyone is going on about WSID and the mounds, The Perth motorplex is pretty well a clone of WSID with all the mounds and everything else.I have a mate who lives about 7 kms from the track over there and when the fuellers are running they drown out his TV while he's sitting in lounge room 7 k's away. He's not complaining about it he attends the track regularly but there it is mounds and all.
Again another example of noise problems close to a dragstrip. My whole idea was to bring to your collective attentions to what you are going to be up against trying to get this happening at Gillman, Like I said even after these 'noise gurus' have done their report you are going to have to deal with councils , EPA, residents groups, other interested parties, and probably also the developers of a couple of marina projects that have already been OK'd in the area. In case you don't know marina developement is code for lots of houses.
All I can say to you all is good luck. We really do need a track here in Adelaide it just seems to me trying to get this to happen at Gillman is almost an impossible feat and would be a LOT easier somewhere else. |
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984 LR
Location: Adelaide
IP: 203.26.122.8
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| Thursday 01/Apr/2010 10:27:14 EST |
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Dear Raymond
Are you for real!
I work at the Royal Adelaide Hospital. I have helicopters taking off and landing on my building's roof constantly during the day and night. The whole building shakes and the noise level is deafening making it impossible to hear a caller on the phone. You may be lucky enough to catch your coffee before it slides off your desk. Not to mention the amount of ambulances we have to listen to throughout the day. I hear this for 9 hours a day, 5 days a week. But apartments have been built across the road from the emergency department and people seem to want to live in them! We generally choose where we want to live, and if you don’t want to hear noise, then don’t move to Gillman (why would you considering the smell from the waste site!). What Ferguson is saying about the time frame of hearing Top Fuel cars puts things into perspective. What, you can’t put up with 2 minutes of noise?! It negative and boring people like you that stops SA from growing! Maybe try looking at the positives?
Regards
LR (new motor sport fan – go Zappia!) |
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983 Monsta 1
Location: Eudunda
IP: 58.167.206.159
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| Wednesday 31/Mar/2010 20:04:37 EST |
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Hey Raymond,
If you don't like the heat get out of the kitchen.
I'm sure it will be much quieter in the center of Australia.
Everyone to their own opinion, but don't bag something that hasn't been researched and tested as yet.
Who knows, the outcome may even surprise you.
Cheers, Kym. |
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982 Dave the en4sa
Location: paralowie
IP: 202.124.89.133
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| Wednesday 31/Mar/2010 19:08:10 EST |
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This is excellent news would be great to be able to
race locally instead of interstate iam off to mildura this weekend to spend my hard earned there, would rather spend the travel costs on a new set of tyres |
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981 Frank
Location: Athelstone
IP: 203.45.127.96
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| Wednesday 31/Mar/2010 18:28:36 EST |
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| Thats right Gary. I crew for a group one team and when we race at wisd we are just 150m from the track and when the top fuelers go down the track you barely hear them so please find something else to do Raymond. |
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980 rosco
Location: adelaide
IP: 58.111.110.84
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| Wednesday 31/Mar/2010 15:25:10 EST |
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An old saying.................
One mans noise is another mans music |
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979 Gary
Location: Adelaide
IP: 219.90.195.198
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| Wednesday 31/Mar/2010 14:55:23 EST |
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Hey Raymond,
Have you ever taken notice of the noise levels that come out of a football stadium or cricket stadium let alone concerts? Do your research if youre not a motorsport fan just say it.
Leave this forum for positive comments not negative. |
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978 rosco
Location: adelaide
IP: 58.111.110.84
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| Wednesday 31/Mar/2010 14:38:22 EST |
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Raymond,
Yes there will be noise but...........
There are people out there with DEDICATED race cars THAT HAVE NO-WHERE IN SA TO RACE THEM. They go interstate and provide other states with an economic boost.
If anyone has the latest Street machine, there are a few pages on the Melbourne motorplex and its problems. I quote ...............
"...the track would boost the state economy by $190 million a year, support driver training and fight street racing." This was after the "government commisioned an independent study int the feasibility of building the strip."
Any way, Let the experts make the judgement on the noise so that a solution can be found if it is a problem.
By the way, have you ever heard one of the big boats HONK its horn down there? |
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977 Frank
Location: Athelstone
IP: 203.45.127.96
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| Wednesday 31/Mar/2010 14:11:37 EST |
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| Raymond WISD drag way was not there before the houses were but the other way around so I think you beter get your facts right and find somthing else to complain about |
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976 Matt H
Location: Adelaide
IP: 203.1.104.12
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| Wednesday 31/Mar/2010 13:44:45 EST |
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Raymond,
I think some of your points are valid and will need consideration. To be honest I never thought the Gilman site would get up because of the proximity and potential value of the land. The site is rather unique hence why it cannot be directly compared to other capital cities.
Dismissising expert opinions is rather arrogant I think. I am not sure of your background but you have not provided any substanital proof or even provided a sound argument. To say residents MAY complain is purely speculation on your part. The goverment would not be throwing money down the toilet if there was no chance of it being approved and being built to a standard.
Let the people do the due diligence and then you can start attacking the project. To start making unfounded claims before pen has hit paper is not very productive or useful. That is why the reports are being done, to address these very issues.
I think I hear a plane flying overhead, time to make a complaint 
Matt |
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975 Scott Ferguson
Location: Backwater
IP: 120.19.181.208
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| Wednesday 31/Mar/2010 12:23:36 EST |
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Raymond, two things.
Firstly, the max number of runs Fuel cars would run in a day would be three rounds. 10 cars running would make five paired passes @ 4.7 secs averaged out. That's 23.5 seconds per round, making a grand total of one minute 10 and a half seconds per day. Considering we would be lucky to have more than one Fuel round per year (and maybe the odd test run at the track) there would be less than a total of two minutes of Fuel car noise per year.
Secondly, irregardless of the proximity to the CBD, Gillman is the perfect location because it is surrounded by industry, and always will be.
As some other people have said, Sydney Dragway is constructed to bounce the sound waves up creating a surprisingly quiet venue. If you attended an event there and went out to the G3 pit area you would agree.
P.S. Nitro Champs on in Sydney on April 30 - May 2 |
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974 Simon Lazarevski
Location: Adelaide
IP: 219.90.158.86
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| Wednesday 31/Mar/2010 12:04:47 EST |
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Raymond,
At Western Sydney the mounds are built so that the noise moves upwards and not outwards.
How do i know this?
I have been there on numerous occasions working on race cars in the pits.
What can you hear from the PITS ?
Bugger all.
as the fuel cars leave the line you can barley hear them going over the finish line and that is 400 mtrs away from the pit area.
The curbing of the noise level you asked about is explained.
Point 2 :
from my knowledge no other city on Australia has a build platform like Adelaide.
Meaning the gillman site and its proximity to the cbd is abundant in land mass that no other major city in Australia has.
Could this be due to the Fact that the port river runs so close to the cbd. I would say yes.
The INDUSTRIAL estate that it sits on can not be found in any other city.
Who do we blame for this ?
The original planners of Adelaide?
Or do we have something unique?
Raymond i wish to point out to you that as you asked which major city has had a referal for a race track in this country?
easy one to answer
Melbourne did only a few years ago with Deer Park.
Before you ask what happened there.
The original consortium could not agree between themselves with what was going on.
It is a lot different to the consortium we have that are working in united not only between themselves, but with all the racers and the community at large.
We had a huge turn out when we had the showing a year ago of local intrests.
This should satisfy your questions.
They are valid and i can understand to a small degree your retention to support this project.
i am looking forward to racing soon.
I ask you to travel to sydney and see first hand how the racetrack there holds back noise.
If you are a budding motorsport enthusiast i am sure you will go as flights are very cheap and a holiday may be on the cards for yourself.
let me know what you think of the sydney track
regards
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973 raymond
Location: adelaide
IP: 115.166.50.186
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| Wednesday 31/Mar/2010 11:40:44 EST |
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I’ll address all these issues in order,
Frank, as far a WSID goes and it’s proximity to housing [I suppose this is what you’re talking about] The fact is the track was there before all the housing encroached upon it, not the other way around. This is entirely different to what is planned at Gillman.
Big Daddy, I’m not saying you are going to hear every drag meeting from 30 Km. away , I just used it as an example of how far noise can travel under the right conditions. But I will stand by my statement that fuel car meetings at AIR could be heard at Glenelg and probably beyond.
Smelzy , you can’t be serious about F1 and the Clipsal circus. Both these events were covered by special acts of parliament that effectively quashed anyone’s right to complain about any part of it. They did this because they knew both these events were going to aggravated a LOT of people.
Dave, the airport thing is pretty much the same as WSID, the airport was there years before it was surrounded by housing. Even so the airport has a curfew on later flights because of noise. This is entirely the opposite from what is planned at Gillman. The residents group or whoever it was that tried to ban power boats on the Port river is going to have a field day with the possibility of fuel cars. If they thought power boats were noisy then they are going to sound like sail boats compared to a fuel car meeting.
Matt, experts, yes we all know about experts. It matters little what these bean counters have to say. What matters and who will have the final say on this matter is the councils, the EPA and the the same residents groups we met before. Even if this gets built [which I can’t see] these people have the power to effectively shut it down with curfews and restrictions. Isn’t it smarter to build this thing somewhere where it has some chance of a long unhindered life.
Finally no-one has addressed my original question as to why nowhere else in this country has there been a dragstrip built this close to the CBD of a major city, let alone in close proximity to a growing area. |
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972 Matt H
Location: Adelaide
IP: 203.1.104.12
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| Wednesday 31/Mar/2010 09:45:46 EST |
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Debating about the noise is a waste of time. That is why the reports are being commissioned. Let's see what the experts have to say and maybe then we can comment. Raymond, unless you are an expert on the matter and can provide some factual inforamtion, all you are stating is your opinion without much grounding. Still you are entitled to an opinion but that doesn't mean it is correct. Let's see what the EXPERTS have to say, i.e. the ones that do the calculations and have some techinical background and authority to approve the project.
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